Oh dear, Oh my

"If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent" (essextee) 01/31/2020 at 09:17 • Filed to: computerlopnik

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My brother spent part of his tax return on a used gaming PC. I don’t have the heart to tell him it was a worst trade deal in the history of trade deals.

A) It’s ugly and monstrously huge.

2) the gpu (g tx 970) is only marginally better than mine while somehow having a TDP almost as much as my entire SFF pc draws

c) Did I mention it’s huge and ugly? I have a rolling suitcase sm aller than this thing.

I wish he’d said something to me fir st, I could have built him a much better system for the $700 he dropped on this.

The only good thing it’s got going for it is a 4.6ghz i7, but I’m sure it’s a previous gen one with a massive TDP as well.

CalzoneGolem > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 09:30

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Why is it so big tho?

Ash78, voting early and often > CalzoneGolem 01/31/2020 at 09:32

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Built- in tech support. The guy needs a toilet and mini fridge.

Nibby > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 09:35

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what the fuck, it’s probably some haswell... get the rest of the specs on it

that’s a $400 system tops

phenotyp > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 09:41

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Holy moly, what a monstrosity.

OPPOsaurus WRX > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 09:43

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i like how it has a hand le on to p as if you are going to carry it around with you.

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 09:43

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Oh no bby what is u doin...

On the other hand congratulations to the seller for the best trade deal in the history of trade deals. 

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 09:46

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Intel processors have maintained a constant rated TDP of 65w for a non-k and 95w for k skus in the i5 and i7 ranges for a long time now. What has changed is that the newer processors turbo to way higher wattages than the old stuff, a 9th gen i7 turbos into the 150 + watt range with decent cooling. TDP wattage has become the biggest lie in Intel processor ratings, with the last few generations you can expect whatever processor you use to pull nearly 2x the TDP rating when under load.

I’m intrigued to know what system you built around the 145w TDP of a 970. My laptop pulls almost that much under full load.

CalzoneGolem > Ash78, voting early and often 01/31/2020 at 09:46

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Must be warm in there.

CobraJoe > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/31/2020 at 09:47

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LAN PARTY!

Ash78, voting early and often > CalzoneGolem 01/31/2020 at 09:47

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Still cooler than Mumbai in the summer.

Too far? Or too accurate?

ShrimpHappens, née WJalopy > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 09:47

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I mean, as long as he likes it... But good God that thing is huge. You could put eight of those old full-size floppy disk drives in it.

CalzoneGolem > Ash78, voting early and often 01/31/2020 at 09:52

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whynotboth.jpg

For Sweden > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 09:58

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Does it even have rgb?

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Nibby 01/31/2020 at 10:03

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16gb ram, 256gb ssd. That's all I know.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 01/31/2020 at 10:05

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I said ALMOST. Mine is like 206 or something like that with the 1030gt installed, it’ll be more when the 1050ti I o rdered arrives.

CobraJoe > ShrimpHappens, née WJalopy 01/31/2020 at 10:11

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Or 8 CD-RW drives. Cheap CD c opies yo!

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 10:12

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Tax *refund

That thing looked like a space heater at first glance

Nibby > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 10:14

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disgusting. absolutely got ripped

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Nibby 01/31/2020 at 10:16

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This thing is probably going to double the electric bill

It came with an activated win10 installation at least. I have  a  spare hard drive I’m going to set him up with.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 10:50

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The 970 also blows that 1030 out of the water in terms of performance.

It’s old and overpriced but there’s nothing inherently bad about the components in this system.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 01/31/2020 at 10:55

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I might have been being hyp erbolic but i t’s still got  the same TDP as my CPU and GPU combined.

facw > CalzoneGolem 01/31/2020 at 11:02

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Because you never know when you might want 4 GPUs!

CalzoneGolem > facw 01/31/2020 at 11:11

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Is ... is that I thing I’d want? 

facw > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 11:13

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Yeah, that i7 is probably fine TDP wise, though if it’s anything less than an 8700, it’s probably only quad-core, which is looking pretty weak these days (even the 8700's hex-core suddenly seems a bit antiquated, though it has hyperthreading while the 9700 does not).

But yeah, a GTX 970 is over 5 years old, and is based on the same 28nm process and Maxwell architecture as the 7 year old GeForce 700 series. There were huge gains in both absolute performance and performance per watt when Nvidia finally got their 16nm chips off the ground in 2016. Buying anything pre-Geforce 10XX (or pre- Radeon 4XX on the other side ) is highly suspect unless you are getting a great price, and even then you’ll be paying for it with power consumption and noise.

facw > CalzoneGolem 01/31/2020 at 11:17

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No! Basically there’s no reason for any remotely mainstr eam gaming system to be larger than mATX (this one is full ATX), and frankly most could probably be mITX. Mult-gpu setups really don’t work well for modern gaming (honestly they haven’t since the 3Dfx days, but they are especially by the wayside now ). The only people who should want multi GPU configs for anything other than showing off are the crypto currency weirdos, and they usually have alternative setups to let them get way more than four GPUs in a single machine.

CalzoneGolem > facw 01/31/2020 at 11:23

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I knew miners would use multiple gpus. I’m so out of PC gaming that I wasn’t sure. I’ve had machines this tall with a myriad of drives and cards but that was 20 years ago and no one has physical media let alone multiple types of physical media and most of the cards’ functionality is built in to modern mobos.

facw > CalzoneGolem 01/31/2020 at 11:31

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Yep, you probably only want one GPU, and you’ll have sound and gigbit networking, and maybe even wifi and Bluetooth onboard. mATX gives your 4 expansion slots (some cases have 5 to allow for more dual GPU options, but again, even dual GPU kind of sucks), and it’s hard to see what you’d do with them besides getting a second GPU, except for specialized tasks. mITX only has one slot, so you just use the GPU there. mATX usually has 4 RAM slots, compared to mITX’s 2, though modern chips tend to be a lot pickier about 4 stick setups, so the value there may be less than expected. Storage-wise, there’s really not much need for an optical drive, so you are dealing with M.2 sticks which go on the motherboard, and 2.5" SSDs, which can get squeezed in just about anywhere in a clever case design (my system can mount three on the back side of the motherboard tray).

Some people may want a bigger case for cooling reasons (especially if they are water cooling and have a big radiator that needs to go somewhere), but there are tons of good mATX options out there for that (Fractal Design especially).  

Quattro-luvr, Powered by Datsun & Stinger > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 11:40

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Sweet new space heater dude!

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 11:46

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If we want to play that game I have a 10W peak system on my desk at work. I could have 60 of those and still pull less power than my home machine.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Nibby 01/31/2020 at 11:56

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The sad thing is this case is actually stupidly high quality, it's just ugly and way oversized.

Nibby > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/31/2020 at 13:03

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lol it has a fucking cheap thermaltake 600W PSU... who the fuck built this?

liquid cooling? lamer

i7 4770(K) or i7 4790(K) this build is 5+ years old

ugh

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Nibby 01/31/2020 at 16:01

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Okay okay okay I found ONE (1) redeeming feature- it’s got a slot on the front that lets you use any 2.5" SATA drive as removable storage.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > phenotyp 01/31/2020 at 16:09

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I was going to make a flippant comment about how the designer used  Storm Troopers as inspiration but then I looked up the case and they LITERALLY NAMED IT STORM TROOPER